Live In Caregiver Contract Still Being Questioned



The live in caregiver contract implemented by the Philippine Overseas Labor Office in Toronto was still being questioned by live-in caregiver applicant themselves who were directly affected by this new rule. They were asking the need for additional monetary obligations from employers when this same people are already helping them by giving them a chance to come to Canada and become Canadians in the future.

Even some are saying that only those caregivers whose employers are their relatives will be able to get through because the relative would be willing to shoulder the additional requirement which in reality is not supposed to be their burden but of the Philippine government.

I don’t understand the logic of Frank Luna in imposing this ruling. If he claims that he is a practicing lawyer in Canada, then he should know fully well how Canada protects its citizens and residents. Even illegals have protection from the police, the courts and from ordinary citizens as well.

Canada is not a perfect society because there are also instances of failure in court judgement and there are issues with law enforcement sometimes. But I would rather risk my rights here in Canada than in the Philippines where the rule of law belongs to the politicians, the military, judges, police, government officials and the people with money.

Mr. Luna, show some sign of concern to your countrymen and women. Don’t hinder their desire to give themselves and their family a better future which they would not otherwise find in the Philippines. Maawa ka sa mga kababayan mo. Basahin mo mga daing nila.

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teen | E-mail: hidden | IP: hidden

what is the action of POLO if the employer doesnt want to sign the addendum?i guess the POLO will say, we reget to inform u but the Philippine Govt has a policy and the employer must comply to this..so, if the employer wont comply & just cancel the contract & get a caregiver from other countries or they’ll just get caregivers inside canada?can
the POLO give the filipino caregivers a new job?can they replace all the expenses incurred by the caregiver on the application of the visa?caregivers in canada are already protected by the canadian law..i hope the POLO will understand the situation of the caregivers..sponsoring a caregiver by a canadian employer is already a big help for filipino caregivers..asking them to sign the addendum is too much..addendum will only lessen the opportunity for filipino caregivers to get hired.

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teen | E-mail: hidden | IP: hidden

Yes i agree that the addendum is just a hindrance for the filipino caregivers..caregivers in canada are already protected by the canadian law..the new policy of the POLO is just abig problem for the filipino caregivers..if the employer dont want to sign the addendum, why is the action of the POLO on this?convince the employer to sign?what if the employer still dont wanna sign & just replace the caregiver?the filipino caregiver cant do anything about this if their employer is not willing to agree with all the conditions in the addendum.

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filipina | E-mail: hidden | IP: hidden

Filipino ba si Mr. Frank Luna?bakit di yata sya concern sa mga filipino caregivers bound for canada?our visa has been approved, we have our plane ticket but we cannot get an exit clearance from the poea.the addendum is a big problem to us..our employer doesnt want to sign it because of the added expenses..can mr. luna give us a new employer who is willing to sign the addendum?or is he willing to replace all our expenses in the application of our visa if in case our employer didnt sign the addendum?he’ll start calculating our expenses from the caregiver training school, our daily allowances, visa application, speak test, medical, airfare..the addendum must be imposed before the employer applies for the LMO..so, if in case the employer wont agree to the addendum, the filipino caregiver can find another employer..but i doubt it, if ur employer is not related to u, they wont sign it..lucky for those cargeivers whose employers are their relatives..of course dugong filipino pa rin, they will sign it..para lang makapunta ng canada..the solution to this, suspend nalang yung addendum..canadian law is enough..caregivers are already protected by canadian law..

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dominga magsakay | E-mail: hidden | IP: hidden

from taiwan, nag apply ako sa canada. fortunately w/in 2mos. na isyuhan ako 3yrs working visa. gumastos ako ng more than 4k $US.I’m here in the Phils for 2 mos now, bcoz my employer refused to sign that paper. ibabalik kaya ni mr luna ang nagastos ko sakaling i cancel ng employer ang contract ko? maganda layunin nya, pero di maganda ang resulta.

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Florida | E-mail: hidden | IP: hidden

I came to Canada under the LCP twice. Both times I was fortunate enough to have found Canadian employers who, after much communication, and building relationship of trust, decided to trust me enough to hire me directly.
The hardest part for Filipinos who are hoping to come to Canada under the Live-in Caregiver Program is finding a Canadian employer willing to hire, sponsor and wait for them.
With this new LCP Contract, demanding Canadian employers to take more monetary obligations just to hire a Filipino live-in caregiver from the Philippines,who is a stranger to them, will be a huge discouragement and “turn-off” for the possible employers. Mr Frank Luna might have good intentions for the Filipino workers but this move is unrealistic, unproductive and down right foolish!

Comments

25 Responses to “Live In Caregiver Contract Still Being Questioned”

  1. Ann on November 10th, 2008

    The new contract will DEFINITELY WONT help both sides..Canadian employers and the Filipino Caregivers..Most of the agencies here in Canada are not accepting caregiver applicants form the Philippines (except if you’re related or something) because of the LONG processing and waiting time. Canadian employers are hiring caregivers because they need it right away. They can’t afford to wait. What if they need someone to look over a cancer patient? The patient will probably die first before the caregiver can be granted visa to come to Canada. Ofcourse they’ll surely not wait for a caregiver in the Philippines for 2 yrs or so if they can have it from other country for only 2 to 3 months?For that matter alone, it gives so much trouble to Filipino caregivers to find Canadian employers much more if they implement this new contract. Please, don’t do this. You’re NOT helping Filipino Caregivers, you’re pulling them DOWN.

  2. admin on November 16th, 2008

    what can we do? if the backlash on this issue is as strong as what happened to POEA CF-04, then maybe Luna and the POEA will listen. As there’s not to many who’s complaining they can just look the other way and ignore it. They’re just fooling the Filipinos in the Philippines when they broadcast there that there’s so many jobs in Canada for Philippine nationals but then they make it hard for a Philippine based worker to come here. What’s new?

  3. Tessie Lab-ingon on February 10th, 2009

    I went to Malaysia in 1992 and was very much eager to go to Canada to work as a live -in Caregiver but Malaysia was not accepting aplications there and it has to be done in Singapore, I heard that Hong Kong is doing faster so I decided to move to Hong Kong after 5 years in Malaysia then I enjoyed my life in Hong Kong for 8 years then my thoughts of my original plan why I moved to Hong Kong came back( that is to move to Canada) so I applied through an agency and was hired quickly. The family who hired me made it sure that I should be in Canada when the school year opens and it happened. They waited for 5 months for me.
    My point here is Canadian embassies abroad has their own procedure I do not see any reason why every applicants from the Philippines complain of the long waiting period and I do not see why the employers who decided to hire caregivers in Philippines should be complaining here about the processing period, the canadian immigration did there best to make sure that the immigration procedure is simple and SEE THROUGH to everybody, with respect to their country of origin. An employer who hires a caregiver who is recommended by a nanny friend already in Canada to avoid spending money for the agency fee turns her back and complain for the long waiting????? Come on…….have you not read on the website????? or were you waiting for a big favor from the immigration? a magic that they will ignore their procedure and let your caregiver fly as fast as possible like you wish? Be practical Canadian, we Filipinos always look up on you as better citizens. I hate to say this but, nobody is forbidden to look at the immigration procedure in hiring a caregiver from abroad. To all Canadian employers, read and trust the canadian immigration website and Do not let yourself be fooled and be used by any one who only thinks of entering CANADA BY ALL THEIR MEANS! For caregivers applying from the Philippines to Canada, Please be fair enough and take the consequences of your decission in applying job to Canada from the Philippines, easiest way………go to www.immigration/live-in caregiver.ca click countries of origin, like Taiwan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, singapore instead of mounting your butt in Philippines and complain for the LONG WAIT!

  4. asadullah khan on February 23rd, 2009

    fi, recently immigrant to canada and sponsor by spouse. now i want to sponsor my sisters and brothers . They all are above 18 years. what would
    be the procedure to sponsor these people It is also to inform that i am residing in Calgary, AB.

  5. asadullah khan on February 23rd, 2009

    I, recently immigrant to canada and sponsor by spouse. now i want to sponsor my sisters and brothers . They all are above 18 years. what would
    be the procedure to sponsor these people It is also to inform that i am residing in Calgary, AB.

  6. adrick chan on April 15th, 2009

    hi i know this is out of the topic but just wanna ask, im a live in caregiver here in canada for 6 months and was planning to go to the philippines this dec for a vacation, how long am i allowed to stay in the philippines? what are the requirements that i nid to submit or do to be able for me to come back in canada? can i stay in the philippines for 3 months? ( my employer allowed me to, but im not sure if this is legal based on immigration laws..)

  7. admin on April 15th, 2009

    @adrick chan - you will need a re-entry permit from either hrsdc or immigration canada. it’s best that you phone them regarding their requirement.

  8. joy on April 23rd, 2009

    im a live in caregiver for 1yr.&2months here n canada. i would like to ask or need clarification about re entry issue. my employer will bring me to the U.S this coming aug.2009 for vacation. do i need a re enrty for this & where? i already have u.s tourist visa issued on april 9,2009 & will expire 2010
    your reply will be greatly appriciated.
    thank you so much
    joy

  9. White Girlie on April 28th, 2009

    I have a question regarding the alleged changed of Immigration policy for future Live-in caregivers that they their status will be treated as an overeas contract workers. That they won’t be allowed anymore to apply for permanent residents after working 24 straight months from one employer. Anyone here knows about this issue? Your input is highly appreciated. Thank you very much.

  10. patricia on June 8th, 2009

    Hi! I just wanna ask if what possibble MONTH and what YEAR they gonna start to implement the hear say issue about the immigration policy for Live-in Caregivers that they won’t be able to apply anymore the permanent residents even thou they completed or finished 24 months working from an employer? I’m terribly worried coz I came here in Canada as a Live-in Caregiver on the year 2007 and hopefully I gonna apply my open visa and permanent residents on this comming months. Do I need to worry about it? Your insights or opinions for this matter is highly appreciated. Thank you very much and more power.

  11. admin on July 20th, 2009

    @ white girlie and patricia - i don’t think there’s any ruling like what you’re asking coming from immigration canada. i’m not sure but that’s what i know. i saw an article about that written by a canadian lawyer and you can read it at this link. hope that helps.

  12. peaches on August 13th, 2009

    hi admin,

    i just want to ask if im going to have vacation this december 2009 in the philippines only 2weeks or 1mos.and just 7mos.here in canada as nanny.would this vacation affect the counting of 24mos.before applying for residency here in canada.or having vacation to the origin country as not yet a immigrant here in canada would affect the months or years requirements for the immigrant?please reply in my email.thank you

  13. vishav on August 15th, 2009

    how canadian temporary nanny apply for re-entery minister permit of canada.she wants to visit india 3 weeks. and how long process of re-entery.she wants to go in november and what is fee.pls tell me as soon as possible.thanks

  14. ax on September 16th, 2009

    hi, as a live in caregiver after 1 yr of sevice we have 2 weeks right, i jz wanna ask if my employer will pay me for that if i get this vacation?And are they still going to pay me for whole month if i get this vacatio?

  15. faye on November 25th, 2009

    please confirm if the caregiver who enter year 2010 in Canada are not anymore qualified to apply for permanent residence after the required 2- 3 years of working Caregiver?

  16. jeanette on January 14th, 2010

    IT IS NOT TRUE that caregivers who enter CAnada in 2010 can’t apply for PR.. It’s TOTALLY UNTRUE! there have never been an amendment such as that done on the Live-in Caregiver Program (LCP) nor will there be in the near future. Call the CIC yourselves to find out. DO NOT listen to any baseless word of mouth! I am a placement agent and I am contact the CIC once in a while.

    If you go for a vacation and you’re still an OFW, you have to make sure that your work permit is still valid, you have a valid re-entry visa and you need to ask your employer/s to write a letter stating that you are employed with them and you are expected to come back and work for them. Write the important dates.

    You are given 10 days paid vacation per year (14 including days off). If you go more than that. do not expect the employer to pay you unless he/she agreed to. If you’re going for a 2-month vacation, that is doable but only 2 weeks is paid. Make sure that your employer is taking you back ‘coz if not, you are pooched!

    icareplacementahency.com

  17. jeanette on January 14th, 2010

    Going out of Canada when you are on the LCP wouldn’t affect the 24 month counting as long as you get paid and remit your obligations to the Canada Revenue Agency. When you apply for PR, the CIC requires you to submit a copy of your tax returns in the past 2 yrs. They will base the counting of the 24-month full time employment from it.

    icareplacementahency.com

  18. Marieta on January 15th, 2010

    Yeah, I agree with all the comments regarding the new CONTRACT ADDENDUM. It will not help us but it will make us suffer more. As if you sold us to the employers. We should study the advantages and disadvantages before implementing it. Not all are bad employers. We should not be thinking of ourselves only but also the side of the employer.
    Thank you very much and hope the concerned people will evaluate this again.

  19. laarnie on February 9th, 2010

    hi as far as i know there is no changes about what you asking about.those changes that i know are the ff.there no more second medical.they make the 3yrs to 4yrs to complete your 24months.or you can apply your open permit aslong as you already finished 3900hours of work.it has been approved but not yet implemented,and its gonna apply to anyone whos been already here or any one who will enter canada,mga live in caregiver let us move..para satin to let us push the imigration to implement them anung silbi ng changes dinaman implemented….mgkaisa tayu magkaisa tayu …

  20. jenelyn on March 2nd, 2010

    yes abolished Polo…iam here in canada for 3 years now and waiting for permanent residency…iam a direct hire from the philippines and i know how long the processing in the philippines. canadian law really protect the caregivers and i strongly believe we dont need additional burden for coming here in canada because employer doesnt like additional expense too…what do you think mr luna? canadian employers are rich? nope they are not they as well live a simple life.they like filipino caregivers but right now due to long processing and not to mention other countries like mexico are now coming to canada as caregivers…think think think …help kapwa pinoys if wala kau maibigay na trabaho

  21. mida on April 7th, 2010

    i just want to take a vacation for 5weeks in the Philippines,my visa is multiple for 3yrs, i work as a caregiver for 10months here in Canada,do i need to get again a re entry visa,or what do i need,i waiting for your reply.thank you.

  22. mi on April 28th, 2010

    just wonderin, im a registered nurse with no experience in the philippines, i want to work in canada as a live in care giver, i already have an employer which is my friend. they told me that it is easier if im in singapore. do i need a care giver certificate to apply? or i just need to go to singapore or hongkong and find a job as a care giver there to have an experience so that i can be a live-in care giver in canada? please help me.

  23. ofel on April 29th, 2010

    What to do if the Canadian embassy refused my application. Almost 2 years ako naghintay paying US3500 dollars then after speak test refused mga documents
    Ano kailangan q gawin?

  24. lola on May 30th, 2010

    This POLO addendum is really a burden to us. It took 3 years for my friend to have her visa and CAQ ( cetificat d’acceptation du Quebec). Just when she scheduled her PDOS, she was told about the addendum which her employer refused to sign. Worst is, she has already purchased a ticket for this Friday to come here to Canada….so what is she suppose to do?? any ideas??
    I came to Canada 6 years ago and I can guarantee that we are much protected by the Canadian government and we are also provided with labor codes to protect us so I don’t know why the addendum is necessary….What should my friend do?

  25. Mariah on June 5th, 2010

    @mi on April 28, 2010
    …I applied as a domestic helper for Hongkong without a caregiver certificate…
    if you have 10 to 12 months work experience as a domestic helper then you can apply as a caregiver for Canada. Basing on my experience when i applied coming here to Canada, the processing of my papers was 5 months…GOODLUCK to you…

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